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HagensBing1977
May 22nd, 2006, 12:45 PM
We've heard AJ mention this friend of his, "Er-nan", quite a few times now. For a show that invests so much in the depth of its characters, I wandered at first what was the point of this guy, and his friendship w/ AJ. His name is repeatedly mentioned in this season. At first, Tony remembered his name as "Fernando". Like many of the characters in the Sopranos, I think the sidekick character ulitimately tells more about a main character than it does the sidekick himself (see Angie via Carm).

I think we were given more insight into Er-nan when AJ told his parents about the car accident story. Er-nan's "Fortune 500 dad" was being sued due to Er-nan's lack of responsibility, and I'm sure his partying had something to do w/ the accident as well. With Johnny Sack losing all of his assets in the trial, I think this story scared Tony into setting AJ straight. Tony sees AJ idolizing Ernan, but Tony sees through the bullsh@t as usual and then towards the end of this episode, tries to nip the situation in the bud. He doesn't need AJ as a future cross to bear, and he hopes at the very least that Anthony Junior won't be a liability to his own fortune.

Tony doesn't want AJ to continue this partying lifestyle, using Tony's credit card to buy $500 bottles of Krystal champaign in efforts to be like Ernan. I'm surprised he didn't set AJ straight by hitting him. With all of the Melfi chat regarding his relationship w/ his own father, I figured that Tony would fly off the handle in trying to set his son straight.



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ObservingEgo
May 22nd, 2006, 01:05 PM
Yep. AJ really is the bastard at the family reunion. He's too soft to make it with the little thugs and JDs, not quite smooth enough to succeed with the hedonistic exploiters like Hernan. This does not bode well at all for his fragile esteem; he has no real reference group. Tony has sufficient ego not to feel intimidated by the likes of Hernan and his Forbes father, but AJ just has not bankrolled that kind of confidence. His is a pitiful situation.

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jayneezy
May 22nd, 2006, 01:42 PM
I don't like his friend this season...Enron or Eran whatever his name is.......That kid seems like he is just using AJ and taking advantage of him.......I would of been like fuck you im Tony Sopranos son you pay for the drinks when we go clubbin.....

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The Gray Eagle
May 22nd, 2006, 01:45 PM
His friend's name is Hernan, isn't it?

AJ was shown listening in to his parents' conversation with Meadow, only at the part where they talk about Meadow having the choice between medical school and law school, and how it's nice to have such options.

Of course AJ doesn't have much of any options, much less law school or med school, so it had to hurt to hear his parents talking like that.



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Rike
May 22nd, 2006, 02:33 PM
AJ's dislike for real work reminds me a lot of what we saw from Vito as he was trying to make an honest living. Will AJ feel he must do something desperate to escape his new job? Oh yes, I think so <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">

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tony soprano OG
May 22nd, 2006, 05:40 PM
Arnon is A.j.'s friends name. He's pretty much a "dooosh beeag" as chris would say


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Mizmoon
May 23rd, 2006, 07:04 AM
What gets me is that Carm and Tony are demanding from AJ that which they were never willing to do themselves ... work hard for an honest day's pay.

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tomahawk19
May 24th, 2006, 11:39 AM
Now that Tony has gotten AJ a job working as a union construction worker, he will probably distance from Ernan who has not worked a day in his life and shows no sign of doing so.

My question of this new job - Will this lead AJ to the border of mob life? Will there be other mob guys at this site who don't work and suck up to him like they did to Finn? Without Finn's construction work, he wouldn't have seen some of the inner workings of the "family business" and would not by as cynical about it with Meadow. Like Meadow, won't he always be known on the site as "Tony Soprano's kid"?

Or does he just get whacked?

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The Original G Man
May 24th, 2006, 11:50 AM
It would be great if the finale picks up right where Cold Stones left off and AJ on his first day witnesses Sil and Carlo disposing of Fat Don. LOL!

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The Original G Man
May 24th, 2006, 11:51 AM
I'm sure an environmentalist like him will be outraged (just like with the Wallace and Grommit display that Blockbuster threw out!)

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HagensBing1977
May 24th, 2006, 07:37 PM
for clarification purposes, Anthony Jr's friend's first name was spelled "Hernan" in the credits.

Like Indy 500 driver Helio, Castronevez, the "H" is silent. Is Chase telling us that he is into heroin, on the side?

The kid's last name is "O'Brien", which obviously is Irish in its origins. As someone w/ Irish background, he's probably 3 or 4+ generations as an American.

Can anybody make some sense of this?? they've mentioned this kid's name in Season 6 more than some of the main characters... not a common name whatsoever.

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ObservingEgo
May 24th, 2006, 08:45 PM
Hernan is a rude, spoiled kid of the parvenu. His name feels pretentious to me, and I believe that it is designed to communicate to the viewer that although he is a poseur, he still has the ability to yank AJ's chain. Hernan does not have the makings of a varsity athlete, and was rude as well as sarcastic to Tony with his "Good evening, Signore" remark. If AJ were not so riddled with insecurity, he would have thrashed this kid for being disrespectful to his father.

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HagensBing1977
May 25th, 2006, 02:58 PM
Remember Tony's comment to AJ in the beginning of the season about family being the ones who won't let you down in the end? AJ doesn't get it at this point.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>If AJ were not so riddled with insecurity, he would have thrashed this kid for being disrespectful to his father.<hr></blockquote>

I agree w/ OE. AJ still identifies more with his friends than with his family. For many teenagers, it takes going off to college to truly appreciate your family. Obviously, that hasn't been the case w/ AJ.

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Soda drink
May 26th, 2006, 02:27 AM
<blockquote>Quote:<hr>What gets me is that Carm and Tony are demanding from AJ that which they were never willing to do themselves ... work hard for an honest day's pay.<hr></blockquote>

Well, I think Carmela gets off the hook here, she did raise those two bloody brats.

Well, being a successful mobster (let alone boss) takes a lot of hardwork, determination and balls.....the honest day's pay is another matter. LOL.

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Monadax
May 26th, 2006, 10:13 AM
Hernan O'Brien as a character's name
is as funny as Finn De Trolio.

It's a Kearny, NJ, inside joke by Chase.

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