Silvio

[spbrew]

What's the deal with Silvio? I didn't even notice him. Was he at the dinner? Is he in the can or what?

(My baby daughter was screaming and I missed a bit.)

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[Mark86]

He was there.

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[Rightfielder21]

He was there, at both dinners... He had a one on one conversation with Tony...

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[TWO GUNS GIANCARLO]

How ironic is it that in the season 5 promo poster it appeared that Silvio would figure prominently in this season's storyline, but if I was to use the season 5 premiere episode as an indication of things to come it would lead me to believe that Silvio will be in the background and not featured as heavily in the story lines as in the previous seasons. Sure he'll be there to advise Tony as always but I assumed as I"m sure others did that he would have a more developed storyline that goes beyond the usual(giving Tony advise and fading into the background. I know its a little premature but with all the new characters and story lines being introduced it would only be natural that somebody is left in the cold.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/devil.gif ALT=":evil">

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[duck44]

Silvio will not be predominately featured this season because of his obligations to Bruce Springstein tour. Which was at full throttle through the filming of season 5. Which sucks because Silvio is one of the best characters in the show!

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[JDPeck]

I'm not sure if this is because of Steven Van Zandt's schedule, but we've never had an episode where the B plot exclusively featured Silvio, and scenes just with him. I always thought it would be interesting to have an episode that revolved around Silvio, just like certain episodes revolve around Paulie, Big Pussy, Chris, and Johnny Sack.



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[Salvatore]

Silvio is a good consigliere...he not only helps Tony in the business..but in "Two Tony's," he counseled Tony with his women problems too

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[Outfit Guy]

Just cause one character didnt get much screen time opening week doenst mean a thing. Give it time, the best episodes are usually mid to end of the season.

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[eruptus]

Sil will have at least some kind of role in the future. Remember the clip in the previews where Silvio was pointing a gun at someone in the woods? Looks like he's going to clip someone and that's a bit strange to me, because Silvio is basically Tony's second in command. Usually guys in that position don't get involved with that kind of action. Oh well, time will tell what happens with that...

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[Mark86]

He did Jimmy Altieri too!

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[Feech]

Silvio is always referred to as Tony's consigliere, but is that really correct? A consigliere doesn't usually get involved with killing, etc.

In the Godfather Tom (Duvall's character) did not do any of this type of task, and it was prominently mentioned when he was kidnapped after Vito was shot.

Your thoughts?

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[Rightfielder21]

Well Tom wasn't a made man (I don't think) he was a lawyer... That could account for the difference in roles...

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[shazahaha]

Your'e right, Rightfielder. Besides, Tom wasn't Italian; he's an Irishman, I believe.

He was made consigliere (pretty close to Spanish consejero (counselor), so it's safe to assume they mean the same thing...) because he gives good (legal) advice.

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[Rightfielder21]

You're right Tom was German-Irish, there fore he could never be made...

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[bacala]

when silvio whacked Jimmy Altieri, I don't think Silvio was techinally Tony's consigliere. But now he is and for the most part has kept his fingers cleaned. However, I think every made guy is open for the possibility of whacking another made guy out of obligation to the boss. So maybe in those future scenes Silvio is going after a made guy. Regardless, even Tony, NJ boss , whacks an associate Matthew Bevilaqua, granted it was personal with Christopher.

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[eruptus]

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>when silvio whacked Jimmy Altieri, I don't think Silvio was techinally Tony's consigliere. But now he is and for the most part has kept his fingers cleaned.<hr></blockquote>

Yeah, that was my point also.

If Sil whacks someone, it could be because he gets close to the victim or something like that. Remember old man Baccala's final hit? Gigi could've used a younger man, but old Baccala could get close to Mustang Sally.

About that Tom-situation... Tom Hagen had been a member of the Corleone-family since childhood, he probably had an italian-american upbringing. Besides, those days LCN had a lot of guys who weren't italian. There were a lot of jewish and irish gangsters who were major players. (Bugsy Siegel, Dutch Schultz, Mickey Cohen, Meyer Lansky etc)

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[shazahaha]

Yes, Tom Hagen did have an Italian-American upringing--he is the adopted son of Vito Corleone.

Hmmm...Was it even called La Cosa Nostra back then? I mean, as you have already pointed out, it'd be a misnomer with all those Jews. (By the way...Not one of the guys you named off was Irish. I'm sure the Irish played some role for the Mob, but I doubt there were any "players.")

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