Adriana and the FBI girl are going to get whacked

[MadScorpion1963]

Another important thing in this episode was when Tony and Adrian are in the car, and Tony remembers Adriana's friend and says he thinks she had a crush on him. Tony of course doesn't know she's an FBI agent. But Adriana, when asked about her, said she had died. Big mistake! On one of these episodes, for whatever reason, Tony is going to follow Adriana or have Adriana followed, and see Adriana meeting this girl in the car. Adriana's too stupid to realize that since she told Tony that this other girl is dead, that if he ever sees them together in public, Tony will know something's up

Tony will think, "why would Adriana say this woman was dead when she's not?" Its going to tip Tony that she's a fed and that Adriana's an informant. My guess is that neither of them last out the season alive. Also remember that Drea DeMatteo has signed to be in the cast of the Friends spinoff next year. So she's not likely to be around next season.

Tony killing Adriana will drive Christopher over the edge, and his killing the FBI agent girl will have the feds really increasing the heat on him.

</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub132.ezboard.com/bsopranolandforum.showUserPublicProfile?gid=madsco rpion1963>MadScorpion1963</A> at: 4/5/04 8:22 pm

[Rightfielder21]

It is not the same agent...

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[MadScorpion1963]

Ah okay, different woman, but doesn't change the potential storyline. Somewhere, somehow Tony sees this first female FBI agent out somewhere-- maybe at a restaurant or something-- the one Adriana told him is dead, and he figures it out. Adriana shouldn't have told him she was dead.

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[Matzner]

Yeah, Ade doesn't talk to her ex-friend...

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[Rightfielder21]

Although it is possible, have you seen her latley, she looks very different, her hair is very short and black, as opposed to large and brownish-blonde...

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[brendantait]

She knows who Tony is, and I'm sure that if she saw him anywhere, she'd get the hell out of there...she remembers being at the house too. She doesn't even want to see Ade as it would complicate things! Besides, I think that Ade might be finished or slowing down with the Fed's...she got too close to losing Chris and being forced to get shit on Tony, someone she cares about. I would not be suprised if she pulled out of the operation all together; the Fed's cant force her to testify; she's an informant, completely different from a CW (Pussy). Ade is never mentioned (probably) in the Federal documents, other than as "informant ####". The Fed's are fucked without Ade; she needs to speak to a good attorney to find that out!
Back to the original subject...the Federal Agent, aka "Danielle" will never see Tony, unless it is in a court room.

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[KenRaff75]

I think more likely Tony may mention the girl's supposed death to Christopher and since he will have heard nothing about it, it will lead to suspicions about Ade.

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[cody206]

if ade were smart (which she is not), she would have replied something along the lines of her making a move on christopher and her losing contact with her thereafter.

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[belle83]

I never thought of that...good insight

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[ktc4unc]

I really didn't understand why Adriana didn't say that they weren't friends anymore instead of she's dead with some crazy story about drowning at a picnic. She should have gone with the "hitting on Christopher" angle instead, or any other reason (I think she stole from me, she was on too many drugs, etc).

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[OldMaid54]

I commented on this in another thread. Someone will spot Ade in the car if she continues with this mess and run the plates. Hopefully though, after this last episode, she stops doing business with them.

Interesting twist if Tony actually catches her talking with the agent. It would arouse his suspicions if Ade is being friendly with a stranger.

Old Maid






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[ktc4unc]

I thought that maybe she would get caught with the agent when she had to make her bathroom run.

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[brendantait]

Who knows if Tony will see her with a Fed; if he see's her in a dark Crown Victoria or an Impala, with a "suit", she's fucked! I think that she may slow down with the Fed's...she seems a little angry and PO'd with Agent Sanserevino (sp).

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[aalleyne]

While I agree that Tony will eventually stumble upon the truth about Adriana, and she may very well get whacked, I very much doubt that he is going to whack the FBI agent. Forget that cops-and-robbers bullsh-t you saw in Dick Tracy; it doesn't happen in real life. It's almost never happened in the entire history of the American Mafia. Even policemen have rarely, if ever, been whacked by mobsters.

Why? Because if a mobster kills a cop--or, God forbid, a fed--all the other cops will want revenge. At the very least they'll no longer cooperate with the mob, which will only make it almost impossible for the mob to run its business. Any self-respecting organized crime syndicate that wants to last more than a year HAS to have the cooperation, or at least the benign neglect, of at least some level of law enforcement; it can't survive very long otherwise. A large measure of the mob's staying power derives from the abundance of corrupt cops out there willing to accept bribes in exchange for overlooking mob activities or even working with the mob (remember Vin Makazian?).

Furthermore, even if the mob might kill a cop, they'd never kill an FBI agent. The FBI is the least corruptible law enforcement agency in the United States; in addition, the ramifications would be dire for the mob if they were to whack a fed, because that would incur the wrath and ire of the American public instead of the benign neglect that Tony himself admitted the mob needs to survive.

Ade may be whacked, sure, but neither of the feds she's worked with is likely to be. If it were to happen, it wouldn't be Tony, easily the smartest mobster on the show with the possible exceptions of Johnny Sack and Silvio. It would have to be one of his more feeble-minded, hot-headed underlings. I could see a severly coked-up and enraged Christoher, MAYBE, doing some retarded crap like that--NOT Tony.

And if it does happen, it will have to be used as the event that will ultimately lead to the downfall of the Soprano crime family. Trust me--there's no other possible outcome.

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[MadScorpion1963]

aalleyne wrote:

Furthermore, even if the mob might kill a cop, they'd never kill an FBI agent. The FBI is the least corruptible law enforcement agency in the United States

oh please, read your history. The FBI was for years the MOST corrupt law enforcement agency in the country. J. Edgar Hoover was on the mob payroll! Remember, how did Tony learn that Big Pussy was an informant? From how own mole/source inside the agency! The idea that the FBI is above/beyond corruption is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that some of those FBI agents we saw in this episode laughing about the Tony/Adriana rumors, are in fact on the payroll of Johnny Sack! We know that Sack is a power hungry egomaniac who resents Tony for not whacking his boss when he asked him to, and we know that Sack and Tony will go to war eventually. So maybe Sack tips off the FBI and helps them build a case against Tony.

If the series ends with Tony going into witness protection, it could come as the result of Tony deciding to turn informer to take down Johnny Sack and the Russians.

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[aalleyne]

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>oh please, read your history. The FBI was for years the MOST corrupt law enforcement agency in the country. J. Edgar Hoover was on the mob payroll! Remember, how did Tony learn that Big Pussy was an informant? From how own mole/source inside the agency! The idea that the FBI is above/beyond corruption is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.<hr></blockquote>

Now, now, chill out. J. Edgar Hoover was ALLEGED to be deliberately overlooking the mob's activities, and as the story goes, that was because he was BLACKMAILED into it (using compromosing photos of him in a homosexual liason). Being blackmailed into something does not truly constitute corruption, because corruption connotes the idea that one accepts payment and/or other favors in exchange for cooperation, while blackmail connotes the idea that one is forced into cooperation against one's will. The LATTER is the story concerning Hoover.

As for your comment on Tony learning that Pussy was a rat: go back and watch Season 1, Episode 11, "Nobody Knows Anything," again. Tony got that from Vin Makazian--a COP on the take, NOT an FBI Agent. And Makazian claimed to have heard that from a guy he knew in the Agency--that doesn't prove that that man in the agency was corrupt. They might have just been discussing it as friends; indeed, Tony's initial derision of Makazian's theory as possibly being no more than "cop gossip" suggests that this was likely the case.

And as for this claim of yours that the FBI was for years the MOST corrupt law enforcement agency in the country: I've personally never read anything that would suggest anything like that, not when it came to dealing with organized crime at least. And remember, even if the FBI as a whole organization has had rotten apples in the barrel from time to time (a possibility, sure), there's no way it's ever been as corrupt as, say, the New Orleans Police Department, which has one of the longest, strongest histories of corruption in the history of American law enforcement.

And remember, Paulie Walnuts himself commented on the difference between the potential of local cops and the Feds for corruption. In Season 2, Episode 10, "Bust Out", when Tony almost got nabbed for whacking Matt Bevelacqua, Paulie told Tony he'd been unable to find out who the eyewitness was. He said, "Local cops, you give 'em a Christmas tree [or something like that], they'll give you their mother . . . but you know how tight these Fed c---suckers keep it."

So maybe I was overstating the case somewhat when I said the FBI is totally incorruptible. That doesn't make it any more likely that Tony, or any other intelligent, experienced, upper-management mobster is going to whack a Fed. Besides, however corrupt the FBI may or may not have been in the days of J. Edgar Hoover, remember that this is the 21st century, and police corruption nowadays is nothing like what it used to be back in Hoover's day--not unlike organized crime itself.

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[brendantait]

Tony preaches all this bullsh!t about being old school, then he wouldn't whack a Fed. Old timers didn't whack DA's or Police Officers at any level...as for the FBI not being out of the reach of corruption, there is NO COMPANY in the world that is free of corruption...NONE! Even, and ESPECIALLY government!

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[Wissy1998]

If I were Ade and Tony mentions to Chris about her dead friend I would just say "she is "dead" to me since Chris was flirting w/ her or visa versa." Ade could always says she just said it because the whole Danielle/Chris situation pissed her off. It would be a possibly good excuse......

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