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FlyOnMelfisWall

March 28th, 2004, 10:04 PM

Well I'll be the first to say, FANTASTIC episode. It was filled with so much that I know I won't have full appreciation for it all until I've watched it a couple more times. For now I'll just say that the writing on this show never ceases to amaze me.

And Edie Falco was absolutely BRILLIANT tonight. How anyone could not feel for her character is beyond my comprehension, regardless of how much of Carmela's increasingly tragic life is her "own doing". I can think of relatively few characters in television or film history that are as compelling as Carmela, and the value she adds to the Sopranos is immeasurable.

aalleyne

March 28th, 2004, 10:07 PM

Well, AJ's living with Tony and Artie now. It'll certainly be interesting to see what life will be like for Carmela, living in that big old house all alone--as long as Meadow is away at school, of course.

(Speaking of which, now that Meadow's living in her boyfriend's apartment in NYC, will she even be coming back to live at home at all, or is that her permanent residence now?)

Still, that last shot of Carmela standing in the house all alone was EXCELLENT. It now appears she has little of a family life to tie her down. With the way the kids (and especially AJ) were treating her, though, I can't say I'm surprised that this would have been the outcome. The truth is, neither of the two kids has ever--EVER--shown her all that much affection, from the pilot episode in which Meadow bitterly resents not being allowed to go skiing in Aspen, Colorado with her friend Hunter, up until now. Given the added animosity as a result of her separation from Tony, especially AJ's disrespectful attitude and her inability to control or discipline him (imagine telling your mother "F--k you!" to her face!), this was really the best thing.

But what now? That's really the question now. Her primary role on the show until now has been that of wife and mother, almost strictly. Now both of those roles have been shed. What's now in the works for Carmela Soprano?

Any thoughts, anyone?

Carlito Brigante

March 28th, 2004, 10:08 PM

Does anyone have any guesses on the guy who Tony & crew has on their knees in the cornfield.....

and who do you think Chris whacks in the parking lot in the preview??

really slick how Tony took care of Feech...he wasn't gonna make the same mistake he did w/ Ritchie by letting things go too far...

jaypeso86

March 28th, 2004, 10:10 PM

Do you think Christopher could be shooting Adrianna in the promo for next weeks episode? Look at his facial expression while he's firing the gun

Carlito Brigante

March 28th, 2004, 10:14 PM

maybe not adrianna...but possibly her FBI agent handler.

also did u see Chris's reaction when Ade asks too many ?'s about business in the preview....

chicoxl

March 28th, 2004, 10:16 PM

As brilliant as the first 4 seasons were (and they were brilliant), season 5 is perhaps the best of them all.

Each episode has rocked so far. Even though the focus has been on the mafia family, the Family scenes have been immense. So much emotion and content is so little lines.

I'd venture to say that we are seeing the best Sopranos we've seen yet.

Outfit Guy

March 28th, 2004, 10:18 PM

I loved tonights episode. I liked the way Tony handled the Feech situation. Butt its not a permanent solution. How long will Feech go away for and what if he some how finds out he was set up??

Next weeks previews were so good. The look on Chris face when he is shooting whoever looks like he may be back on drugs. Or he is shooting Adrianna, or its just the way they set up the previews to make you think one thing them let it be another.

Greatly anticipating next week!!!!!!

aalleyne

March 28th, 2004, 10:19 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Do you think Christopher could be shooting Adrianna in the promo for next weeks episode? Look at his facial expression while he's firing the gun <hr></blockquote>

I very much doubt that. Whatever happens to Adriana ultimately, it won't be settled inside of one episode. She's too important a character. Anyway, my mind strongly rebels against any scenario in which Christopher kills Adriana.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>maybe not adrianna...but possibly her FBI agent handler.<hr></blockquote>

Well, only someone who has absolutely no understanding of the Mafia as an organization could state such a thing. Never, never, NEVER would any half-sane mobster kill an FBI agent. I'm not even going to bother to explain that one. Think hard and you'll understand why it could never happen.

(Here's a clue: remember The Godfather--all the trouble that was caused by Michael Corleone's gunning down of a New York City police captain?)

jaypeso86

March 28th, 2004, 10:20 PM

I didn't think about Chris maybe whacking Adrianna's FBI agent. That could also be a possibility. I did notice Christopher's face while she asked him about the "cigarette thing". Between that and the look on his face while he was shooting the gun. Who knows though? Adrianna is definitely compost by the end of the season.

spbrew

March 28th, 2004, 10:23 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Well, only someone who has absolutely no understanding of the Mafia as an organization could state such a thing. Never, never, NEVER would any half-sane mobster kill an FBI agent. I'm not even going to bother to explain that one. Think hard and you'll understand why it could never happen. <hr></blockquote>

..but Chris can be a dipshit and do very stupid things.

Zillajay23

March 28th, 2004, 11:26 PM

Another great episode as usual. I like the total chaos of the whole AJ situationa and the separation. I think it was cool seeing AJ with Tony that is what he needs, Tony will not tolerate his little smart mouth remarks. The scene where Tony asked him to repeat what he said to his mother was great. Also the Feech situation that one I did not see coming. Although I hope to see more of his character it seems like that is it. Tony and Feech at the Bing was great too. I can't wait till next weeks episode this season is off to one great start.

harmony2k66

March 28th, 2004, 11:29 PM

I loved "All Happy Familes". I think that these first four episodes have been the best four this show has aired in succession as compared to previous seasons. A progressive show, and a maturing one at that. Had we gone the same way that we all probably thought it would wrap with Feech, we would know that the show was starting to repeat itself. A lot of reviewers have cited that this show is not as fresh as it once was, but I completly disagree. When Tony mentioned Richie Aprile, it answered a lot of questions as far as whether the fictional characters in this show, had the same feelings about going about things the same way. That Tony would actually "go out" of his way, to not reach the inevitable conclusions, shows how much these characters do understand their past, and it seems their future. Carmella and Tony got the best material tonight, and it was glad to see a new forum for them, and not them on the typical one as "The Honeymooners", or Marge and Homer, which I thought they were becoming in Season Three. The angle with melfi, while not a new one, seems the most plausile. Why would a mob boss with no impulse control, stay in therapy? It seems believable that he would be constantly in and out. Carmella, in a great flashback, hit home, when showing how children can be so adorable until they get to the point where they are driving.
Some reviewers have cited AJ And Carmella as The OC, and I think this is an insult to this show. The OC is 90210 fare drama, while this angle completly plays as believable.
I had fear that David Lee Roth would get more screen time but they evened him out.
My only complaint with this episode was the recasting of Dr. Fried. I guess they have to do what they have to do. I doubt they would recast just to recast. Anyways, as fas as viewers are concerned, this was defintly, "All Happy Families".

aalleyne

March 28th, 2004, 11:48 PM

Can I just say one thing? If Christopher, or ANYBODY in the family, whacked an FBI agent, that would be all she wrote for the whole thing. Throw in the towel and call it quits. Because that sort of thing would bring down the wrath of the entire FBI and federal justice system upon the entire New York-New Jersey connection. It's why organized criminals generally have a rule about avoiding killing cops and especially feds.

Think of this quote from The Godfather (the book):

"That anyone would consider even for a moment killing a New York City police captain was too fantastic. The toughest hood in the Mafia had to stand still if the lowliest patrolman decided to slap him around. There was absolutely no percentage in killing cops. Because then all of a sudden a lot of hoods were killed resisting arrest or escaping the scene of a crime, and who the hell was going to do anything about that?"

Think also of what Tony told Johnny Sack in the 4th season finale: "Most Americans, by and large they sit still for our shit. So what if people get ripped off--they figure it's not them." It's that kind of benign neglect on the part of the larger American society that mobsters like Tony Soprano count on in order to run their business. If a mobster killed an FBI agent, the public outcry for justice and the dead agent's colleagues' desire for revenge would combine to destroy the Mafia--or at least come dangerously close. That's why it's never happened--and never will.

Mobsters don't kill feds. Period. If Christopher does that next episode, it's curtains for him. And if he does do it, and the repercussions for him aren't severe, that would spell the end of the show's invaluable quality of realism.

aftermath

March 29th, 2004, 12:06 AM

Chris could have killed an FBI agent and it could be the end of chris. Like in the post "next week"

jakenspiel stated

I was watching the scenes for next week and caught something interesting. The scene were Tony is holding the gun in the cornfield..it looks to me like it's Christopher. His back is to the camera, but what set it off was thats its Christohers Hummer parked behind them...but no Christopher standing around, but it looks like it could be him on his knees. Also it seems weird at the end when Adriana said "What Happened???"..like she was crying or sleeping and then Tony's response.

Luban

March 29th, 2004, 01:47 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>If Christopher, or ANYBODY in the family, whacked an FBI agent, that would be all she wrote for the whole thing. Throw in the towel and call it quits. Because that sort of thing would bring down the wrath of the entire FBI and federal justice system upon the entire New York-New Jersey connection. It's why organized criminals generally have a rule about avoiding killing cops and especially feds.<hr></blockquote>
Well, Christopher's already killed a cop, in the S4 premiere. No repercussions from that yet...

harmony2k66

March 29th, 2004, 02:58 AM

Anyone else catch
Ade:What happened?
Tony:We should probably talk about that.

I am still betting 95 percent that Tony and Ade are screwing around next week. She might just be drunk. But with that at the end, and the rest of the preview, it looks like Chris is a little pissed. I don't know if Blundetto is referring to Chris or not in this:
"He was saying all sorts of crazy things about you"
Tony S:"Well he knows where to find me".

Who knows, allow me to be lame, but this season Rocks!

stvrap79

March 29th, 2004, 03:01 AM

I think that you are totally right about tony and ade... Did you see Chris' face when she came in with the drinks?

FlyOnMelfisWall

March 29th, 2004, 03:44 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>I am still betting 95 percent that Tony and Ade are screwing around next week.<hr></blockquote>

I don't buy this, if you mean "screwing" literally here. There are very few women that I think Tony would consider off limits, but Ade is one of them. Besides which, he's never shown even a modicum of flirtation towards her in the past, which in my mind confirms that he considers her off limits. Just like I think he would never screw Sil's wife or Rosie Aprile (back in the day). Heck, he was even guilt-ridden for screwing Ralph's goomar, even AFTER the goomar broke off with Ralph and even though he hated Ralph.

Now some of the preseason promos did show Chris throwing what looked to be a vase of flowers at someone who looked like Tony, and he was dressed in the same shirt that he was shown in in next week's promos, so that scene is probably coming next week. So I agree that Chris might be p.o.'d at Tony, and maybe he PERCEIVES there is some wrongdoing. But I can't believe his perception is accurate if it involves sex between Ade and Tony.

harmony2k66

March 29th, 2004, 07:43 AM

HBO had some cool pictures up on There Wallpaper, but they quickly took them down. Who knows if the Ade and Tony thing is true. I agree it is completly out of nowhere, but I still think it's going to happen. I was thinking about these first four episodes, they remind me of when Season Three was first airing, I remember, each episode airing through the first six, thinking that the one after, was better than the one before. The Livia one, Fortunate Son, Employee Of The Month, Another Toothpick, and then what I thought was the best of Season Three, University. I think that University, and Army Of One are the best hours of Season Three. I was thinking about this season, and this seems to be the first season where a lot of things that were started early on, have already been wrapped up. It's interesting, because it always seems that by this time in the show, a lot of plots have been opened, just so they can be unresolved later in the season. Also, it always seems that wherever the characters are in the show in the first few episodes, things are completly different by The Thirteenth Episode. A few exceptions of course, Tony and Carm of Season Four, and Tony and Pussy in Season Two.

jgants

March 29th, 2004, 10:04 AM

Just one more thing about the "killing an FBI" thing -

I remember an Unsolved Mysteries segment back in the 80's where a mafia soldier was wanted for killing a patrolman. Then, a couple of months later, they found the body dumped by the highway somewhere.

It isn't just about the wrath of the police / FBI - it's also about the fact that killing a cop/federal employee on duty is a capital offense, and no one's going to trust anybody not to talk if they're facing a needle in the arm.

Johnnyo12

March 29th, 2004, 12:02 PM

Love it!!!

I must be missing something with Tony and Ade. But Feech did refer to her as T's fling did he not say "my complements"?

Anyway who would have seen the Feech set up coming. I thought they would do the same old thing and just wack him.
I very much am liking where they are taking this stuff with Carm. They empty house, a possible new romance. I am very curious to see where this is all going to end up. I still want to think that Carm will date, and then be disenchanted with that and the constant lonelyness, and she will want her family back. I am giving up doing any more predicting though.... this season could end up anywhere<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat">

eruptus

March 29th, 2004, 01:18 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>I am giving up doing any more predicting though.... this season could end up anywhere<hr></blockquote>
Me too. It's fun to make predictions, but I don't know if anyone has ever been right about these things. At least I'm not going to make predictions based on promos, those are misleading as hell. I haven't seen the new promo, but I'm pretty sure that it's misleading too.

FlyOnMelfisWall

March 29th, 2004, 03:23 PM

We've seen Tony's panic attacks triggered by a number of circumstances or stimuli in the past: the ducks flying away while Tony is grilling meat; him packing his mother's things away and moving pictures of her off her mantle; preoccupation with Big Pussy late in season 3.

Yesterday, Tony's would-be attack came on as he was talking about lending a drill to Brian. But just a moment before he was talking about smuggling Tony B's sperm out of prison and how "that was the least [he] could have done". That statement implies guilt on Tony's part, which resonates with similar expressions of guilt that Tony manfiests regarding Tony B and then defensively withdraws just as quickly. So I think the botched hijacking that put Tony B away is going to emerge as a major factor in the resurgence of Tony S's panic disorder.

Feech also offered a glimpse of what may be a telling thing: he accused Tony of being "scared" when he and Jackie took down the card game years before. Somehow I'm getting a very vague Jackie Jr. vibe about this whole thing. Don't forget that in the DVD commentary for "Amour Fou", Chase states that Ralph's excuse for not joining Tony and Jackie as planned on the card game hold up (he caught the "clap") was false, that Ralph was in fact just afraid to go. I also sensed a falsity in Tony's glib reference to getting "whacked on the head by two goons" in last week's ep. He may have been whacked on the head, but I'm increasingly wondering if that was intentional to provide him an excuse for not participating in a crime that he was afraid to commit.

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bacala

March 29th, 2004, 04:12 PM

interesting Fly....Tony has "whacked his head" plenty of times falling down from a panic attack. In fact, I think I see in the previews when Tony is talking to Melfi, he has another bandange (small) over his head. hmmmm...

spbrew

March 29th, 2004, 06:01 PM

I think Patsy gets it. Why? I swear I saw glasses on the guy that was being executed in the cornfield, and he had dark hair. I can't think of another dark haired character with glasses.

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March 29th, 2004, 06:58 PM

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Mr Pittsburgh

March 29th, 2004, 08:41 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Well, Christopher's already killed a cop, in the S4 premiere. No repercussions from that yet...<hr></blockquote>

If I recall, didn't that cop just retire? I think Chris shot him after he came home drunk from his retirement party. Maybe it's tolerable after the cop or whoever quits, retires, etc...

I find it very hard to believe that Ade is getting clipped, but if she gets caught talking to the feds (which I think will happen this season) thats what will happen. Now, for as the guy in the field, it's possible to be Chris, but why would tony be the one shooting him?

Anyway, this is a great season.

aalleyne

March 29th, 2004, 10:59 PM

Has anyone noticed one very crucial development? Remember the pilot episode, how Tony told Dr. Melfi he was afraid he'd lose his family (with apologies to The Godfather Part II, I hope)? Well, isn't it interesting how it's CARMELA who's now effectively lost her family?

Thoughts, anyone?

Mr Pittsburgh

March 30th, 2004, 01:10 AM

I was just watching All Happy Familes again tonight and I noticed something.

In the beginning, when the guys are at the club, Aide asks Tony if he was sure he didn't want something to eat since he didn't eat lunch. (how would she know that <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o"> ) Then Chris gives a funny look, and then Silvio walks out and talks to Aide real quick.

I know people were talking about the rumor of this, as soon as I saw that it clicked that may be possible, perhaps leading into next weeks episode.

ObservingEgo

March 30th, 2004, 09:10 AM

...yes! Pittsburgh, this is an issue I tried to jump start Sunday. I was wondering about that chat between Silvio and Ade out in the hall. Now it makes sense that in her "lunch" statement, she had been revealing data that she should not have known and/or experienced, thereby, raising suspicions with subsequent reprimand. At the time it felt so out of the blue for Silvio to usher her out into the hall. Now this incident coupled with Sunday's previews offer illumination.

But wait...are people suggesting that T and Ade have had a fling? With loyalty issues as they are, this transgression feels improbable to me. I am thinking that Ade may now be more en-scripted into her role as snitch than even she herself realizes. Accordingly, this new-found curiosity is raising suspicions...

spbrew

March 30th, 2004, 09:47 AM

I have OnDemand (like Tivo) and I replayed the Sil/Ade scene atleast 5 times and just can't figure it out. Chris looked p'd for a moment, but it wasn't even a second later he started laughing at Feech's BS. If Chris was upset, would his attention and mood swing that quickly?

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bacala

March 30th, 2004, 10:34 AM

I don't see this Tony and Ade thing really happening yet. I've heard the rumors, but I do not honestly think if something was going on with currently that we would have not seen a scene of their interaction yet. Everybody gave a serious look around when Feech made an "off-color" comment to Adriana about "one of her twins" falling out of her dress, right in front of Christopher. Now what Sil and Ade were talking about, who knows?

aalleyne

March 30th, 2004, 11:13 AM

Now where in God's name has this Tony and Adriana nonsense come from, anyway?!? After four seasons, all of a sudden Tony and Adriana are having a fling?!? Where could that possibly have come from?!?

Does no one remember how hard a time Tony had just taking Valentina La Paz away from Ralph Cifaretto? How he agonized over it because of the rule about mobsters not screwing each others' goomars, fiancees or wives, even though he disliked Ralph and Valentina was dying to get with him? When he initially refused to take her on, she sneered, "What, you got morals all of a sudden?" His response was "I dunno about morals. But I do got rules." Mobsters are manifestly NOT supposed to blaze each others' women--it's kind of like the rule about never raising your hands to a made man. Remember in the movie Casino, when the big boss Remo Gaggi questioned Frank Vincent's character about a possible affair between Joe Pesci's character, Nicky Santoro, and Sharon Stone's character, Ginger McKenna, Ace Rothstein's (Robert De Niro) wife? And Frank Vincent's character covered Nicky's ass because he knew he might get killed if the bosses found out he was banging Ace's wife?

Maybe if there was some previous sexual tension shown in the show between Tony and Ade, I just MIGHT be able to buy such an outlandish theory. But there has NEVER been any such tension between the two. And you folks see one little scene or two, and all of a sudden you think they're banging? It makes no sense whatsoever!

Remember--if Tony had such trouble banging the ex-goomar of a capo he detested, how could he have no qualms about banging the FIANCEE of his own protege, Christopher, whom he loves like a son? Not to mention that Ade is not only Chris' fiancee, but also the niece of Tony's late best friend, Jackie Aprile Sr.

I think this whole theory of sexual relations between Tony and Ade is just damned silly. And if it proves to be true, I'll have to wonder what the hell is going through David Chase's mind. There is absolutely NO basis for such a relationship whatsoever.

aalleyne

March 30th, 2004, 11:16 AM

Now where in God's name has this Tony and Adriana nonsense come from, anyway?!? After four seasons, all of a sudden Tony and Adriana are having a fling?!? Where could that possibly have come from?!?

Does no one remember how hard a time Tony had just taking Valentina La Paz away from Ralph Cifaretto? How he agonized over it because of the rule about mobsters not screwing each others' goomars, fiancees or wives, even though he disliked Ralph and Valentina was dying to get with him? When he initially refused to take her on, she sneered, "What, you got morals all of a sudden?" His response was "I dunno about morals. But I do got rules." Mobsters are manifestly NOT supposed to blaze each others' women--it's kind of like the rule about never raising your hands to a made man. Remember in the movie Casino, when the big boss Remo Gaggi questioned Frank Vincent's character about a possible affair between Joe Pesci's character, Nicky Santoro, and Sharon Stone's character, Ginger McKenna, Ace Rothstein's (Robert De Niro) wife? And Frank Vincent's character covered Nicky's ass because he knew he might get killed if the bosses found out he was banging Ace's wife?

Maybe if there was some previous sexual tension shown in the show between Tony and Ade, I just MIGHT be able to buy such an outlandish theory. But there has NEVER been any such tension between the two. And you folks see one little scene or two, and all of a sudden you think they're banging? It makes no sense whatsoever!

Remember--if Tony had such trouble banging the ex-goomar of a capo he detested, how could he have no qualms about banging the FIANCEE of his own protege, Christopher, whom he loves like a son? Not to mention that Ade is not only Chris' fiancee, but also the niece of Tony's late best friend, Jackie Aprile Sr. And besides, after all this time himself treating Adriana more as a kind of niece than anything else, why would Tony, completely out of the blue, suddenly decide to hook up with her? It makes NO SENSE.

I think this whole theory of sexual relations between Tony and Ade is just damned silly. And if it proves to be true, I'll have to wonder what the hell is going through David Chase's mind. There is absolutely NO basis for such a relationship whatsoever. That so many people on this message board have seized upon it and milked it so dry is unfathomable to me.

MikeyL

March 30th, 2004, 11:35 AM

Fly,
In rigard to your post above about the panic attack Tony almost had. As I was watching it, I got the impression that he wasn't going to have a panic attack, but a heart attack. He said he thought (hoped?) it was indigestion. I've heard people that are having a heart attack, sometimes, think its indigestion, and vice versa. Thoughts?

spbrew

March 30th, 2004, 12:14 PM

I agree. It hough Tony was having chest pains (as in, having a heart attack).

SofiaGiovanna

March 30th, 2004, 12:34 PM

Didn't Carmella ask him "is that one of your attacks" and he said "No, it's indigestion" Why would he fluff over the issue if it were a panic attack? Certainly Carm knows about them.

Heart problems aren't out of the question for him.
In the shot toward the end of 5X4 where he was slumped in the easy chair at his pad with AJ, Artie and Tony B, he looked bloated, and certainly any chance he had at ingesting healthy food even marginally flew out the window when he left Carmella's cooking.

I don't think it was acida...I think it was a heart attack warning, but I could be wrong.

FlyOnMelfisWall

March 30th, 2004, 02:08 PM

You all certainly make a valid point. It could have been chest pain related to heart disease.

But my feeling that it was a panic attack was based on (1) the fact that chest pain and heart-attack like symptoms are often also classic symptoms of a panic attack (trust me, I have inside info on this one, LOL) and (2) the fact that he reluctantly admitted to Carmela after she stared him down that he had recently had a full blown panic attack. His attacks have usually come in clusters and have ranged from fleeting twinges to full-blown attacks where he passes out, so this fits the history.

As for why he would have been reluctant to admit the recent recurrence of panic attacks to Carm, consider he was attack-free for 2-3 years. I don't think he would want her to perceive that their separation has caused him so much anguish or psychological stress that the attacks have returned.

He can't even admit that to himself. Notice in his apology letter to Melfi, his P.S. was "I'm doing fine", which was after the incident in the kitchen with Carm and obviously after the full-blown attack he spoke of.

eruptus

March 30th, 2004, 03:27 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Now where in God's name has this Tony and Adriana nonsense come from, anyway?!? After four seasons, all of a sudden Tony and Adriana are having a fling?!? Where could that possibly have come from?!?<hr></blockquote>
If you really want to know about this, read the spoiler-section. I have my own theory about this, let's see how it plays out...

uffalogal

March 30th, 2004, 04:49 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Everybody gave a serious look around when Feech made an "off-color" comment to Adriana about "one of her twins" falling out of her dress, right in front of Christopher. Now what Sil and Ade were talking about, who knows?<hr></blockquote>

I didn't get this at first, but before I finished watching, I think I got it.

Feech was being too familiar with Ade. He was always playing the big shot. An egomanic, I think Sil called him. Sil didn't like him, and he went to talk to Ade to make her feel better because she didn't like Feech's comment.

shazahaha

March 30th, 2004, 05:09 PM

I think this might have been my favorite episode yet. They got rid of Feech (yay! He was annoying!) and are devoloping the story really well.

I loved the Jewish wedding! And the goys (especially that black girl!) singing "mazeltoff" (sorry about the spelling). Funny stuff.

tenaciousdan

March 31st, 2004, 03:51 PM

Feech says if anyone needs anything else, "one of the KIDS will come out", in reference to benny and little paulie.

bacala

April 2nd, 2004, 12:57 PM

so feech called little paulie and benny KIDS and that they were coming out...coming out where?...couldn't the KIDS be a reference to Adrianna's breasts? what makes you so sure he wasn't talking about them?

thegame1999

April 2nd, 2004, 02:01 PM

Because that makes no fu*kin sense.

Mampi Swift

April 2nd, 2004, 04:15 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>so feech called little paulie and benny KIDS and that they were coming out...coming out where?...couldn't the KIDS be a reference to Adrianna's breasts? what makes you so sure he wasn't talking about them? <hr></blockquote>

Paulie and Benny, young guys, KIDS. Feech said "If we need anything else one of the kids will come out" meaning out of the office, into the bar area. Yeah?

ObservingEgo

April 2nd, 2004, 05:04 PM

IMO the "kids" remark referred to Little Paulie and Bennie. Feech mindlessly indicated that if anyone needed anything, one of the "kids" could essentially act as (his) errand boy. It was this Feech comment later (obliquely) referred to by Silvio, when Silvio was ranting with Tony about how arrogant, and presumptuous Feech was (my words; not Silvio's). Tony replied sympathetically and supportively of Feech. Silvio, however, was indignant and frustrated by Feech's "entitled" behavior.

Feech definitely was admiring of Adriana, but even he would not have gone so far as to suggest in front of Chris or Tony, that one of her "kids" would come out...

cutthroat

April 2nd, 2004, 11:17 PM

In rewatching this episode it really doesn't play that well. It's a big let down after episode three. The honeymooner hotbox scene is lame, the cardgame is boring and Carmela said pretty much the same things to AJ as she did to Medow, the wedding scene, the bride running out into the parking lot -- please -- plus no Junior and no Paulie ('cept that awful laughing scene). Though it's still better than eps two. (maybe the worst of all 5 years) Ep one was good too.