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[Noonan1]

that the rat told him "you looked like you've lost weight" and everyone seemed to be tipped off by that statement. What was so important about that statement?

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[tonysoprano555]

i take it to believe that maserone was trying to get tony to let his guard down and get tony to gain a false sense of security in him. how often do guys go up to each other and say hey, you losin weight?, unless they want something.

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[harmony2k66]

I just viewed it as Masserone kissing Tony's a**.

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[shazahaha]

I also wonder if anybody will actually know what it means...

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[BakedZiti]

IMO both your answers apply to the question. A personal compliment to someone can initially get his/her attention and put the speaker in a positive light, even if it's complete BS. C'mon, who doesn't respond to a little flattery?

Guess this particular ploy didn't work out too well for the late Mr. Massarone.



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[Alas1119]

I also wondered how Tony was tipped off and knew that Massarone had been flipped after that brief conversation.

I asked my husband and he replied, "guys just don't tell each other they're losing weight out of the clear blue sky." <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin">

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[Sopranogirl]

I think Tony in his drunken stupor finally saw the light as far as Maserone was concerned. Much like he came to the realization that Big Pussy was a rat during his feverish dreams in Fun House.
Like Sil said, he has his own process<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/devil.gif ALT=":evil">

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[07066NJ]

In the beginning of "Rat Pack" when Tony meets him at the diner, im PRETTY sure he was wearing a tan Museum of Science and Trucking hat which Tony made mention of. "Why dont you take off your hat and stay a while."

The second meeting when Tony is patting him down front and back, when they part ways, Tony taps the beak of the LIGHT BLUE M.O.S.T hat and tells him, "..nothing to lose your hair over." I think the two hats he wore on two seperate occasions are completely out of character and, of course, the "you lost weight" comment and the gift of the painting. THREE things were out of place and you know what they say; three strikes--YOU'RE OUT!



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[Soda drink]

The reason why Tony knew masarone was a rat was because tony wasnt losing weight. Why else would he say it? There was no reason for masarone to say what he said that's why tony knew the guy was a rat. Remember how tony was looking at his gut?

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[Mudskipper]

For me, it wasn't just that comment which alerted Tony.

Masserone was uneasy in his meeting with Tony at the diner, and the painting was a bit over the top, in an "I'm your friend, no really I am!" kind of way.

In the second meeting, Masserone was clearly even more nervous. Tony hugs him and I got the impression that they don't normally greet each other in that manner, Masserone is clearly surprised and uncomfortable.

Then we get his 'weight' compliment towards Tony, which was completely out of the blue. And then he starts asking questions, and, understandably Tony says nothing of worth to the listening FBI.

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[harmony2k66]

When you see Maserone at the beginning of that shot, before they meet for the second time, he is nervous as hell. Plus, Tony threw him off guard with the hug, and so its like he responded with a flattering comment, because it seemed that Tony was actually pleased that Jack was in his company. I really thought there was a lot of substance in this episode, and I thought it was great


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[Mark86]

That's one incredible scene. The way it's filmed, the weight comment, the hat tapping, great... I can watch it over and over again.

Also the scene where Tony tries to find a nice spot for 'The Rat Pack' painting... Priceless..

After watching the episode twice, I realize even better how great it is

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[retibro]

the "take off your hat" comment is becuase tony seems to dislike people wearing hats at restaurants. masarone gives the excuse that he is having a hair treatment (rogaine i think). that's why he tells him later "nothing to loose your hair over".

tony takes out massarone and feels guilty about it because he doesn't have proof other than the weight remark. and that's why he gets rid of the painting. in the bathroom scene he looks at himself in the mirror and realizes that massarone is kissing ass.

however, i did not like how this episode was handled (tina made a lil worth while <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":p"> ). but we never got to see the hit. its not the violence, but how did the hit take place? did tony do it? most likely but after the way tony spoke to him massarone would have been cautious to meet with tony wthout the fbi nearby. did he follow him secretly?

and is the fbi that stupid! they know tony is exteremely cautious yet they park suspiciously in plain view.

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[chicoxl]

No WAY did Tony do it himself. Obviously, a boss doesn't get his hands dirty like that. Not a chance.

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[Whackjob]

Tony has done wetwork before - Pussy, the Bevolacqua kid (the one who shot Christopher), and some guy at the marina ( I forget why, but Tony blasted him several times and had chains and cinder blocks ready in the back of his car). For Tony to whack someone at this stage of his life would be foolish, but he has made judgement errors before. It would have been nice if they would have shown the hit and let everyone know who did what. The smart choice would have been Christopher, but Chris is pretty sloppy when it comes to hits.

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[akaylaa]

I agree with you. Tony knew he wasn't for real when he asked him if he was losing weight. Tony knew it wasn't true and therefore he wouldn't have any reason to say it, unless he was nervous and trying to score points with him. Also, the wire might have been under his hat. Note that he didn't remove it when Tony told him to take it off in the restaurant. The feds probably suspected Tony might pat him down, so the wire was placed under the hat. I think Tony became suspicious of him after the weight comment. http://www.smileycons.com/img/classic/0377.gif

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[madribub]

Tony threw away the painting not because he felt guilt about getting rid of Massarone. The Rat Pack were these classic film stars. There's nostalgia involved there concerning those movie stars as well as the class or '04 who are coming out of the woodworks. Tony probably expected things to be just like they were with Blundetto and him before jailtime. Tony throwing away the painting symbolized two things: his disgust with just how false Masserone's gesture was, as well as his realization that the Rat Pack doesn't exist in Tony's world anymore. He's the boss. He said it himself. Everyone has to treat him differently. He can no longer be "just one of the guys." That, and Blundetto trying to go straight further drives Tony away from...well, his mob crew, as well as Tony's fantasy of being part of a recently released Rat Pack.

Rat Pack probably also refers to, well, all the people in this episode ratting everyone else out. There's Masserone, Albert?, and Adrianna in that rat pack.

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[Rightfielder21]

There's Masserone, Albert?, and Adrianna in that rat pack.

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Raymond Curto...

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[akaylaa]

I'm getting mixed up. Who is Albert and which one is Raymond? http://www.smileycons.com/img/classic/0048.gif

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[jasonblueeyes]

But Tony did say to Dr. Melfi In 'Two Tony's' that he was working on his weight.

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[bacala]

Tony shot that guy at the end of season 1 and silvio helped Tony make sure he slept with the fishes because he (Chucky Signore..I believe) was the main hitman for Junior's crew. Tony took care of him before he (Chucky) did.

And Albert is Larry Boy Barese's son and is looking for his dad's crew while faces trial like Junior. Albert is the slick lookin guy that always repeats what others have just said..."some people are out there stuffin themselves"

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[moth78]

Albert Barese is Larry Barese's younger brother, not his son.

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[bacala]

actually, i think they are neither father/son or brother/brother...I think they are cousin's...quote from season 2, episode 25:

"Actually fellas, my cousin Larry wants the Fairfield contract. The hardship of his family and whatnot, while he's in jail awaiting trial." - Albert Barese

"See, this is why we have a fixed bid club." - Tony

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[akaylaa]

Okay I know who it is now. Thanks. http://www.smileycons.com/img/classic/0002.gif

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